Comment Meta

[amaresu]

Femslash Mini Meta fest was an utter fail this year. And I'm still not in a place where I could do it, so I purpose Comment Meta. And let's have it cover all things female and fannish. However you define those.

How it works

1. Post a meta topic in a top level comment. Use the subject line for the meta subject and expand as you want in the body of the comment. Or don't.

2. Repeat Step 1 for as many meta ideas as you have.

3. Comment on other meta topics.


It's kinda like a kink meme, only with meta. Feel free to browse the mini meta tag for ideas.

This is meant to be about as low pressure as it comes. Feel free to write on your own journal/Tumblr/blog and link back here. Respond with as little or as much as you want. This post will remain open indefinitely, so please track it if that makes things easier for you.

Comments

Re: femslash production

[thingswithwings]

I think something like ship_manifesto would be great, exclusively for femslash - people sign up for their favourite pairing and provide picspam, recs for the best episodes/comics/moments in canon, recs for awesome fanworks, etc. I know ship_manifesto has gotten me into plenty of fandoms, just because I wanted to find the cool pairing I'd seen described in loving detail.

If someone wanted to set up and run such a comm, I would volunteer to write about one or more of my favourite femslash ships. :)

Re: femslash production

[cantarina]

Speaking personally, ship_manisfesto is not usually a resource I ever use unless I'm looking for a specific primer that's *already* gotten me hooked. I feel like asking regular manifesto-length docs out of f/f fandom is maybe asking a lot?

That said I've been talking about setting up a women-centric recs comm for a while. Maybe it's time, with space made in it for reccing/promoting source materials?

Re: femslash production

[intransitive]

I wonder what the ratio of canon vs. non-canon fans tends to be, and if it's different for different fandoms or for femslash in particular? So if we want to engage the fans who need to be more invested in particular characters or canon sources in order to interact with them/it fannishly, are we trying to get them to see the appeal of the less canonically involved type of fannish interaction, or get them excited about the source canon, or a mixture of both? I think of fandom as my actual fandom, and read everything that even slightly appeals to me no matter where it's from, but I think I'm in the minority with that.

I think reccing would be a big help, and I would totally be on board for helping with that if you'd like. And I think it would be pretty easy to incorporate promoting source materials into recs. Eventually maybe we could get a sort of primer for femslash for particular fandoms? I'm thinking of the one cherie_morte did for SPN/SPN RPF at spnroundtable a few months ago, which recced particular works, but also sort of gave an overview of the fandom, characters, and resources. It really did a great job of the ship_manifesto type of info without being quite as involved, but also (I think) engaged people who might not have thought about femslash in that fandom before.

Re: femslash production

[cantarina]

I'd expect that for the f/f shippers I know, the ratio is highly skewed toward non-canon fans, but other femslash communities are likely to be different? I know that there are people who cross between the different f/f metafandoms, but I've never been able to be one of them. Maybe the canon vs non-canon shipping is a part of that? Hm.

Willing to help = willing to co-mod or willing to contribute?

Re: femslash production

[intransitive]

I think both - I've never co-modded or modded anything before, so I might not be amazing at it, but I'm definitely willing to try, and certainly happy to contribute!

I was also thinking about what someone downthread (or in another thread? I can't find it now) said, about how people engage with fandom as they're inspired to and it's something of an inexplicable process as to what draws people to what characters or fandoms. I do think that's mostly true, and that maybe folks who aren't into femslash can't really be "persuaded" into it. And the canon vs non-canon shipping is probably similar...

But I also think that creating more femslash (fic, podfic, meta, comms, etc) makes it more likely that people will find something they like. Plus, I know there are some people who just haven't seen awesome woman-centered fanworks promoted, who will love it and get into once they do. And I think that creating and reccing femslash fanworks/fandom is, like podfic, its own reward. Not something I do because I like the feedback or download counts (I do, but that ground's been covered well), but because I love it on its own and find value in the act itself.

Re: femslash production

[tamsin]

A women-centric recs comm sounds like an awesome idea and I'd be happy to help if you want.

Re: femslash production

[tellitslant]

LJ has a het_recs comm - I would love a femslash_recs comm. Because let's face it, I think as femslashers we are pretty damn multifannish. Speaking personally, I read femslash in fandoms I don't even watch (most of my fannishness lately is tv/movie), so it would be great to have those pre-screened for me by someone who is enthusiastic about the source. And then I might get around to doing my Warehouse 13 recs! :P

Re: femslash production

[amaresu]

There is ff_showcase which has gone through several attempts to spark interest. With little success.

Re: femslash production

[twtd]

If someone wants to take over ff_showcase and spark some life back into it, I would be thrilled. I don't think

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Re: femslash production

[erinptah]

I've made some effort to rec f/f (and/or my favorite small fandoms) at list50 and fancake. I'd love to see more people jumping in with that! Especially since they have a multifannish audience already built up, whereas it takes some effort to get more specific rec comms off the ground.

Re: femslash production

[sarken]

A ship_manifesto thing would be fun! I was going to suggest doing it as a one-off event in an existing community instead, but, actually, yeah, a separate community would probably be better, since there wouldn't be a time limit (that is, if a really femslashy show starts in the fall, it's not like "too bad, the event is over, you have to find somewhere else to post your pic spam").

I tend to be a monofannish multishipper, so I probably wouldn't pick up a new canon, but I'd also be among those happy to write about one or more of my favorite femslash ships if someone wanted to run such a community.