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Femslash Mini Meta fest was an utter fail this year. And I'm still not in a place where I could do it, so I purpose Comment Meta. And let's have it cover all things female and fannish. However you define those.

How it works

1. Post a meta topic in a top level comment. Use the subject line for the meta subject and expand as you want in the body of the comment. Or don't.

2. Repeat Step 1 for as many meta ideas as you have.

3. Comment on other meta topics.


It's kinda like a kink meme, only with meta. Feel free to browse the mini meta tag for ideas.

This is meant to be about as low pressure as it comes. Feel free to write on your own journal/Tumblr/blog and link back here. Respond with as little or as much as you want. This post will remain open indefinitely, so please track it if that makes things easier for you.

Re: femslash production

Date: 2013-06-12 02:15 am (UTC)
cantarina: donna noble in a paper crown, looking thoughtful (Default)
From: [personal profile] cantarina
Speaking personally, ship_manisfesto is not usually a resource I ever use unless I'm looking for a specific primer that's *already* gotten me hooked. I feel like asking regular manifesto-length docs out of f/f fandom is maybe asking a lot?

That said I've been talking about setting up a women-centric recs comm for a while. Maybe it's time, with space made in it for reccing/promoting source materials?

Re: femslash production

Date: 2013-06-12 03:46 am (UTC)
intransitive: (Default)
From: [personal profile] intransitive
I wonder what the ratio of canon vs. non-canon fans tends to be, and if it's different for different fandoms or for femslash in particular? So if we want to engage the fans who need to be more invested in particular characters or canon sources in order to interact with them/it fannishly, are we trying to get them to see the appeal of the less canonically involved type of fannish interaction, or get them excited about the source canon, or a mixture of both? I think of fandom as my actual fandom, and read everything that even slightly appeals to me no matter where it's from, but I think I'm in the minority with that.

I think reccing would be a big help, and I would totally be on board for helping with that if you'd like. And I think it would be pretty easy to incorporate promoting source materials into recs. Eventually maybe we could get a sort of primer for femslash for particular fandoms? I'm thinking of the one cherie_morte did for SPN/SPN RPF at spnroundtable a few months ago, which recced particular works, but also sort of gave an overview of the fandom, characters, and resources. It really did a great job of the ship_manifesto type of info without being quite as involved, but also (I think) engaged people who might not have thought about femslash in that fandom before.

Re: femslash production

Date: 2013-06-12 03:58 pm (UTC)
cantarina: donna noble in a paper crown, looking thoughtful (Default)
From: [personal profile] cantarina
I'd expect that for the f/f shippers I know, the ratio is highly skewed toward non-canon fans, but other femslash communities are likely to be different? I know that there are people who cross between the different f/f metafandoms, but I've never been able to be one of them. Maybe the canon vs non-canon shipping is a part of that? Hm.

Willing to help = willing to co-mod or willing to contribute?

Re: femslash production

Date: 2013-06-12 06:44 pm (UTC)
intransitive: (stay down bro)
From: [personal profile] intransitive
I think both - I've never co-modded or modded anything before, so I might not be amazing at it, but I'm definitely willing to try, and certainly happy to contribute!

I was also thinking about what someone downthread (or in another thread? I can't find it now) said, about how people engage with fandom as they're inspired to and it's something of an inexplicable process as to what draws people to what characters or fandoms. I do think that's mostly true, and that maybe folks who aren't into femslash can't really be "persuaded" into it. And the canon vs non-canon shipping is probably similar...

But I also think that creating more femslash (fic, podfic, meta, comms, etc) makes it more likely that people will find something they like. Plus, I know there are some people who just haven't seen awesome woman-centered fanworks promoted, who will love it and get into once they do. And I think that creating and reccing femslash fanworks/fandom is, like podfic, its own reward. Not something I do because I like the feedback or download counts (I do, but that ground's been covered well), but because I love it on its own and find value in the act itself.

Re: femslash production

Date: 2013-06-13 10:18 pm (UTC)
tamsin: (Default)
From: [personal profile] tamsin
A women-centric recs comm sounds like an awesome idea and I'd be happy to help if you want.

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