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Femslash Mini Meta fest was an utter fail this year. And I'm still not in a place where I could do it, so I purpose Comment Meta. And let's have it cover all things female and fannish. However you define those.

How it works

1. Post a meta topic in a top level comment. Use the subject line for the meta subject and expand as you want in the body of the comment. Or don't.

2. Repeat Step 1 for as many meta ideas as you have.

3. Comment on other meta topics.


It's kinda like a kink meme, only with meta. Feel free to browse the mini meta tag for ideas.

This is meant to be about as low pressure as it comes. Feel free to write on your own journal/Tumblr/blog and link back here. Respond with as little or as much as you want. This post will remain open indefinitely, so please track it if that makes things easier for you.

Re: Once Upon a Time: Love/Hate relationship

Date: 2013-06-05 04:41 pm (UTC)
havocthecat: mulan and aurora standing next to each other in the forest (ouat aurora mulan 01)
From: [personal profile] havocthecat
Yes! I thought OUaT was going to be a deconstruction of fairy tale tropes, or maybe of Disney tropes specifically, and it's turned into the same thing it purports to deconstruct. (Mind you, I have about fifteen eps sitting on my DVR waiting for me to get up the heart to delve into them. So I'm not caught up, even if I'm fairly spoiled.)

I don't want the Game of Fairy Tales, where it's all darkity-dark and grim (pun intended) and Snow and Charming's wedding turns into a bloodbath. I'm actually quite fond of a happily ever after, or at least an ending that's happy and doesn't have rose-colored glasses. I don't want Queer as Fairy Tales either, where everyone is gay. But would it be so wrong for Mulan to wake Aurora up with a kiss? Or for Rumple to have hated Cora because he fell in love with Henry, Sr.? Or something, anyway.

It's just. There's so much potential for weird, different, unusual storylines, and an exploration of magic as something other than "you must PAY A PRICE for it" blah blah blah. Been there, done that, watched Willow's descent into evil from it, you know?

But my high hopes were dashed by a lot of the conventionality of the story. And also, I know you like Rumple, but honestly, even if he's a fascinating character, I'm hoping that they make him a little more interesting to me. I just don't have much interest in the particular route they're going on this Sympathy for the Devil storyline.

Also, Regina: She went evil because she's a Poor Little Rich Girl who got abused by her parents (don't get me started on parents who will not/cannot intervene on abuse, even if it's because they're abused themselves) and grew up to perpetuate the cycle of abuse? And because she's been Rumple's pawn this whole time? Oh, no, really? Couldn't Regina be gloriously evil because she wants to be? And if you want to redeem her, couldn't you make it be for her, not for external forces like Henry, Jr.?

I just want to hand them all four seasons of Farscape, and then tell them to watch the series and take particular note of Crais, Scorpius, and Grayza's characterization, because that's how you redeem a villain. (And you don't necessarily make them any less villainous.)

I want this show to be so much more, and it's capable of it. (Also, I want all the Aurora/Mulan ever. On screen, even.)
Edited Date: 2013-06-05 04:41 pm (UTC)

Re: Once Upon a Time: Love/Hate relationship

Date: 2013-06-07 04:11 pm (UTC)
counteragent: red shoe (Default)
From: [personal profile] counteragent
Yup. Season Two started _really, really_ strong but then they fell back on the tired characterization of Regina and I kind of lost interest again.
Also Belle/Rumple does very little for me--stockholmy love is only cool if it's INTERESTING, and Belle is too one-note to do it for me. I thought her




SPOILERS FOR LATE S2




transformation to Lacey could have been cool if they clarified the relationship between people's cursed selves and their real selves better.

Re: Once Upon a Time: Love/Hate relationship

Date: 2013-06-07 10:56 pm (UTC)
cleo: Famke Jansen's legs in black and white (Default)
From: [personal profile] cleo
So agreed re: Lacey. I both love and hate the transformation there because I like what it could explore, but it makes absolutely no sense.

Re: Once Upon a Time: Love/Hate relationship

Date: 2013-06-07 10:55 pm (UTC)
cleo: Famke Jansen's legs in black and white (Default)
From: [personal profile] cleo
All of this. Seriously.

I think they really could have gone somewhere with Mulan and Aurora both realizing that they have more of a connection to each other than either did to Phllip. Or I'll even take a canon threesome...alternative relationships ftw.

I think Regina frustrates me most because she started out as such an awesomely bad character that just...seemed awesomely bad (I mean, albeit only for about an ep). And while I was sure we were going to get an explanation, I was hoping it would be unconventional. *sigh*

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