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If there is in fact, a collective brain, I'd like to ask it a few questions. I've recently been wondering about Femslash fandom as a whole and thinking about whether it exists and how it manifests.


  • Does femslash fandom (as a larger entity) exist?
  • If it does, what, other than the obvious (having at least one f/f ship), are the central features of femslash fandom?
  • How is femslash fandom culture different from (or the same as?) het fandom/guyslash fandom?
  • What are the main fannish interactions in femslash fandom?
  • Are there any femslash fans who are exclusively into femslash?
  • What are the canons that you think most femslash fans would (or should) know through osmosis (that is, they might never have experienced them, but would know through discussion/meta)?
  • What are your personal experiences being a femslasher in a (small/large/eastern/western/etc) fandom?



Tell me, what are your thoughts on femslash?

(I have thoughts, but it's easier to ask questions than give a hazy reply based on a limited sample and my experiences in small fandoms.)

Date: 2010-09-24 12:32 am (UTC)
ranrata: (house-amber13)
From: [personal profile] ranrata
PGSM Rei/Minako is something of an OTP for me
I always thought there was ~something~ going on between them in the manga, but PGSM just went into overdrive! (To this day I swear they were made slashier to make up for the absence of Haruka/Michiru.)

so the relationship is built on what fans project on to the women versus something in their canon interaction.
This makes sense...a lot of femslash fic reads this way to me.

What ships have surprised you (either by taking off or not)?
In Grey's Anatomy, I'm surprised Meredith/Cristina and Cristina/Teddy aren't the most popular non-canon pairings--Meredith kicks her husband out of bed for Cristina, and Cristina wanted to swap her boyfriend for Teddy! In Dollhouse, Caroline/Bennett was practically canon, but I've seen zero fic; instead Echo/Sierra (okay, they're friends...) and Claire/Adelle (huh?) are more common.

In House fandom, Cameron/13 is ridiculously popular. I think the two characters had one scene together, and I'm not sure they even spoke to each other in it. So I'm baffled by the lack of Amber/Cuddy, since they actually interacted, and there were some strong feelings there (granted, negative ones, but still). River/Amy is huge in Doctor Who right now...I'm not surprised people ship it, but I'm surprised by how big it is.

Even the big fandoms confuse me--Devil Wears Prada, the new Alice in Wonderland, Law & Order? Huh? But the fandom is near non-existent for Nurse Jackie (I know it's on Showtime, but still), where one of the women is canonically bisexual. I've become so confused about what will be popular that I second-guessed myself about Rizzoli & Isles taking off.

Date: 2010-09-24 02:49 am (UTC)
pseudo_tsuga: (Default)
From: [personal profile] pseudo_tsuga
I'm so glad I'm not the only one confused by the popularity of The Devil Wears Prada femslash since I didn't twig on it at all. I think, though, that the hardened mentor/idealistic student is such a popular dynamic that people immediately became interested in Miranda/Andy even if the canon didn't quite back up all the ways people prefer to have it play out.

Date: 2010-10-03 01:04 pm (UTC)
shadowings: (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowings
I think some part of the surprising thing about which femslash pairings/fandoms take off is who writes for it too, because there is so much less of it compared to the glut of het/slash fic. Specifically when I think of DWP I think of those few writers that are talented and enjoy writing epics - the fandom seems to center around them.

Also there are shallow factors involved for sure. With House, Cameron and 13 are the conventionally thin, attractive alluring people that both look pretty and both look pretty together. Cuddy is older, and Amber isn't not attractive, but she's no Cameron or 13. With the Harry Potter fandom, the most popular femslash pairings by far and away are those that feature the young, femmey people. There's McGonagall fic and there's Hooch fic and there's Tonks fic in abundance, but it pales in comparison to Ginny, Hermione, Pansy, Fleur, Luna, other people.

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